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Poster: mickmac Date: Aug 14, 2010 8:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Best Piano Performance in a GD Song

Is anything better than It Hurts Me Too off of Europe 72 as far as piano goes? Got to be one of the best. Listen please.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Aug 14, 2010 2:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Piano Performance in a GD Song

I find it stunning that in a thread discussing piano playing in the GD that Brent or Bruce come up at all.Also that the songs cited as examples are a blues shuffle,two country plunkers,Foolish Heart and while interesting Ramble on Rose.What about Keith's many brilliant improvisational turns on Dark Star,PITB,Other One,Eyes and Bird Song.While I'm sure Brent's playing on Dark Hollow was riveting and that "magical" tinkling on Foolish Heart my qualify for some folks ,to include it in a discussion on the finest piano playing in the bands history is laughable.I would hope that LIA,Cliff or maybe Jim F. would check in with an opinion on this topic.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 14, 2010 5:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Piano Performance in a GD Song

well I picked Ramble On Rose because that tune to me is made for piano, doesn't do much for me at all without it.

Why mention Brent or Bruce? Well because the piano in reckoning is nicely done and Bruce plays the hell out of the keys

fwiw I thought of Keith immediately when this topic came up just didn't have time to give it too much thought. To me the whole Europe 72 tour has brilliant PIANO playing. It's my favorite tour and 72-74 are imo their most brilliant years ( but that's not ALL I listen to )

And this whole notion that something has to have jamming virtuosity to be considered noteworthy I find to be a short sided trap. To each their own but I'm not one of those has to be 30 minutes or a " jam" to be good ( although I love Dark Stars and Playins )people. I'm someone who can appreciate the guitar work of JJ Cale 10 times more than a Ymgwie Malmstein ( sp? )

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 15, 2010 7:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Piano Performance in a GD Song

It's not even worth your time to respond jots

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Poster: user unknown Date: Aug 14, 2010 3:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Piano Performance in a GD Song

Well "jer", you blasted everyone's picks but didn't suggest anything better.

While I agree that LiA, Cliff and others can probably weigh in with some illustrious examples, what are you contributing?

What makes your contribution better than the contributions of others? Wait, you didn't contribute anything constructive. Are you Tito?

And why has no one mentioned Tom C. He definitely brought a different perspective to the piano sound of the band. And though not a piano, his work on MOTM has always struck me as one of the most beautiful pieces done by "the boys".

As Soldiers of Jah Army said(in "Can't Tell Me" on the Get Wiser CD):
"You can't tell me who I am
cuz I'm working on that too.
What's right for me just ain't right for you."





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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Aug 14, 2010 4:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Piano Performance in a GD Song

I did not blast everyone else's picks,what I pointed out were the examples put forth did not necessarily lend themselves to showcasing his true skills on the piano,that they were simple blues or country songs.I then went on to cite the songs that I thought did show his ability.I pointed out the Brent and Bruce mentions as laughable because they are.I suggested 5 songs,I didn't mention specific versions because that is subjective and wasn't the point I was getting at.Off the top of my head I think Keith's playing on the jam into Morning Dew on 5/26/72 is understated and beautiful.What exactly was your contribution to this thread other misunderstanding mine.I simply stated my opinion on the subject and as to what you think of said opinion is of no importance to me.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Aug 14, 2010 9:15pm
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".What about Keith's many brilliant improvisational turns on Dark Star,PITB,Other One,Eyes and Bird Song"

I stand corrected sir, it was an unfortunate oversight on my partand I extend my apology. I should read closer and not go off half-cocked.

And I'm sure my mention of Tom C. means as much to you as you imagine your opinion means to me. When, in fact, I relish the knowledge I am able to glean from this site. I have gained much knowledge here, from many different posters and do appreciate every one.



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Poster: mickmac Date: Aug 14, 2010 4:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Piano Performance in a GD Song

It may be a blues shuffle but there's some damn fine piano playing in it! It's a song.

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Poster: Longnstrange Date: Aug 14, 2010 11:20am
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Yes.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Aug 14, 2010 11:19am
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Agree it is beautifully played. This whole period (72-77) is distinguished by inspired playing by Keith... and this tour shows precisely what he brought to the mix. Also think his playing is what inspires so many great Dark Stars from these years - and makes a lot of other tunes "jazzier", like Eyes.

My other pick for great piano by Keith - Big River - wouldn't be the same without him. Same show cited by highflow - great versions of both, plus that wonderful uptempo TLEO.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1973-05-26.sbd.miller.patched.83535.flac16

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Poster: utopian Date: Aug 14, 2010 10:49pm
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10-27-90 minglewood w bruces piano is ripe

Overall; my favorite player was pre drugged-out Keith, he was technically amazing. I listen to mostly Brent era stuff, and really appreciate his soulful singing and unique chops.

Bruce could sound really really good or awfully bad. And Vince I still regard as one of the biggest travesties ever commited.

Peace

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Aug 14, 2010 1:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Piano Performance in a GD Song

Special mention should be made to Keith's contributions to some of the quiet parts of Morning Dew .

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Aug 14, 2010 4:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Keith/Pig Duet

Right on Dudley!

Keiths piano work during the Morning Dew's from Europe '72 are beautiful.

And honerable mention had to go to Pigpen for his contribution during the quiet perts as well.

No better example of this than the exquisite performance at the Deutsches Museum...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-05-18.sbd.miller.79057.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: Yankee9 Date: Aug 14, 2010 12:07pm
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I really love Brent's piano work on the Reckoning version of Dark Hollow.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Aug 14, 2010 7:27pm
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GOOD CALL!!!

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 14, 2010 9:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Piano Performance in a GD Song

Bruce and Jerry going at it after the 7' mark . Warning the Foolish before 7' has Garcia's Fozzy Bear choking on a hot dog vocals ( who came up w/ that? dire ? SDH ? ) . Magic thereafter , esp. around 14' . It's a 10' jam w/ Garcia , Bruce and not too much VW . On the So Many Roads boxed set .

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1990-09-18.sbd.miller.79022.sbeok.flac16

And this isn't even in the same category , as it is Phil & Friends show . I am not a Phish fan , but I am a huge Page McConnell fan . This line up works ,

http://www.archive.org/details/1999-04-17.paf.sbd.miller.25297.sbeok.flacf

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 14, 2010 10:52am
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Glad to see you, Micah, was a little worried about you yesterday. (sorry for "facebook moment")

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 15, 2010 7:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Piano Performance in a GD Song

Thanks , Ring .
Everyone has FB moments here .
I dislike that term . Gotta think of something better to call it . Not so corporately defined ( or so well marketed ). Something dare I say , more organic .
As I am typing this at 10:40 on a quiet Sunday morning , a female moose just ran down Main St. headed north . And here come the police . O.K. , not something I've ever seen this far south .
I bet jots has had a few moose burgers in his day .

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 15, 2010 7:55am
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Just a thought: why not simply call it a 'friendly moment'? Isn't that what we're doing at these times - talking as friends? Indeed, I wonder why we need to bother labelling our interactions at all.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 15, 2010 10:09am
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Yeah, I agree. I never heard this expression before I came here. I don't do facebook.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 15, 2010 10:13am
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I believe it may well be a Tellism. I don't do Facebook either, nor have I blogged or tweeted, and I have no intention of doing those things. Damn it, I don't even send text messages.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 15, 2010 10:22am
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I am actually on facebook, but I don't go there very often. It just seems too complicated. Worlds colliding ... also I already spend too much time online.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 15, 2010 10:25am
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I do text because it's a mode of communication acceptable to my teenage son ... he can answer my late-night "where r u plz home by 12" messages without losing face to his peers (no one has to know he's texting back and forth with his mother).

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Poster: high flow Date: Aug 14, 2010 10:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Really Nice(Best? That's too tough.) Piano Performance in a GD Song

5-26-73 - You Ain't Woman Enough

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1973-05-26.sbd.miller.patched.83535.flac16

All the "Might As Wells".

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Aug 14, 2010 11:06am
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Unfortunately....it was probably over dubbed!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 14, 2010 12:43pm
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good topic! Going to have to think about it. I don't know about best but I really dig the piano on Ramble on Rose from the Europe 72 TOUR ( take your pick which performance they're all good ).

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Aug 15, 2010 12:30pm
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Can't answer this one, have never really thought about it actually....but for GD piano my own tastes would definitely head to the '72-74 shows. (And some '76, too - like 7/17/76 stands out to me as a show where Keith is right up there with everyone.)
The one favorite performance that comes to mind right away is the 12/6/73 Dark Star, since it's a rare occasion where Keith takes the lead and inspires them to do a very unusual Star.
While not a "best", 3/23/75 is also noteworthy since we have Keith, Ned, and Merl all on keyboards, so we get that thick 3-keyboard mix that doesn't sound like any other Dead show.
And honorable mention goes to the 9/20/70 To Lay Me Down, where I think Jerry is on piano & Pigpen is on organ - very nice, and they never did one like that again...
Oh, and, speaking of Pigpen, his piano playing in the 1970 acoustic shows, while not the "best" in any terms, adds such a nice rustic flavor to the songs. My own favorite is the (electric) New Speedway Boogie from 6/13/70, which granted is a little hard to hear, but it has a surprising little Jerry/Pigpen jam in the middle.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Aug 15, 2010 1:44pm
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Oh, and speaking of honky-tonk Keith, this is a relatively unknown performance that caught my ear - from his first rehearsals, the Deep Elem Blues - the ONLY time Keith played Deep Elem with the GD, as far as I know... Not flashy or 'the best', just something I liked.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-09-30.sbd.cousinit.18109.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Aug 16, 2010 8:43am
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Some different or additional lyrics in Jack Straw. I've never listened to this recording before, thanks.

Real nice T Jed here Dire!!

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